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Title: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 20, 2009, 03:03:50 PM
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/autos/0902/gallery.electric_car_credits/index.html

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/autos/0902/gallery.electric_car_credits/2.html

Chevrolet VoltCost: Est. $38,000
Tax credit: $7,500
The Volt is expected to go on sale in late 2010. It can go up to 40 miles on plug-in power alone. Beyond that, a small gasoline engine will generate electricity on the run so drivers can go farther without stopping to recharge.
General Motors targeted a 40-mile range because that's farther than most Americans travel on most days. That means many drivers could go weeks using very little, if any, gasoline.

Instead of trying to increase the range, engineers will concentrate on reducing the cost of future versions of the Volt, GM executives have said.

Kinjo Note: I want one of these. I just wonder why they are not using solar in anyway. Watch, they are going to have a huge vast product line of solar power charging attachments you have to buy additionally.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: black death on February 20, 2009, 03:54:31 PM

Kinjo Note: I want one of these. I just wonder why they are not using solar in anyway. Watch, they are going to have a huge vast product line of solar power charging attachments you have to buy additionally.


they don't put solar panels on cars because solar panels break easily. if small rocks are flying at your car and hit the panel on the top it may break. AND we all know cars get dust on them. dirt severly weakens the amount of electricity it gets.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 20, 2009, 04:29:13 PM
underneath the glass or protective coverings over the shell

easy fixes with enough ingenuity
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: black death on February 20, 2009, 05:11:53 PM
i could go on on how the glass would make it so it obsorbs less light and stuff but whatever.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 20, 2009, 05:26:58 PM
one day we dont use oil, and we will have alternatives
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Flashwerewolf on February 20, 2009, 09:19:39 PM
i say plastic wrapped solar pannels.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Whalesdude on February 21, 2009, 03:22:28 AM
But we use oil to make plastic...

Anyways, if people weren't so lazy, we could just wash the solar panels. Lolol.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: tkoold on February 21, 2009, 03:52:19 AM
underneath the glass or protective coverings over the shell

easy fixes with enough ingenuity

well in 9th grade at arlington we had a day devoted to testing solar pannles and even the slightest extra glass coverup decreased power take in by like 40% and anything close to a windshield or panle cover like for our headlights decreased it 60-80% overall solor power needs Direct Heat light with no variations from UV rays its not just the light you need its what comes directly from the sun that can also give us Canser that fules the power from solar energy... Myself i think Hawaii and austraila have been under utilized.. but then again smarter people are in the works of making solar power satalites to grab more UV radiation power from the light in space and be closer to the sun then any place on our earth. doing that even solves the weather problems of Needing dirct angled Light.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Flashwerewolf on February 21, 2009, 04:16:14 AM
i could use one of these I fill up my tank one or twice a month
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: black death on February 21, 2009, 04:17:20 AM
i say plastic wrapped solar pannels.

even worse.

underneath the glass or protective coverings over the shell

easy fixes with enough ingenuity

well in 9th grade at arlington we had a day devoted to testing solar pannles and even the slightest extra glass coverup decreased power take in by like 40% and anything close to a windshield or panle cover like for our headlights decreased it 60-80% overall solor power needs Direct Heat light with no variations from UV rays its not just the light you need its what comes directly from the sun that can also give us Canser that fules the power from solar energy... Myself i think Hawaii and austraila have been under utilized.. but then again smarter people are in the works of making solar power satalites to grab more UV radiation power from the light in space and be closer to the sun then any place on our earth. doing that even solves the weather problems of Needing dirct angled Light.

EXACTLY. that's what i mean.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 21, 2009, 02:01:09 PM
you guys dont know about the advancements in solar, the technology that is availble to the public is the old solar technology from the 70s/80s

there have been many advancements, but just not marketed

the technology we have now for solar on the market only takes in 1 color ray from the sun, but they have advancments in solar that takes all the ray colors from the sun and turns them into energy

the main concern is filling up a battery, batterys need to be advanced too, to hold more power

a few breakthroughs ignored by the public;

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/21155/

http://www.greentechgazette.com/index.php/solar-energy/solar-panel-breakthrough-captures-96-21-percent-of-light/

when i move to florida, solar power is something im going to explore more


Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Flashwerewolf on February 21, 2009, 03:57:54 PM

a few breakthroughs ignored by the media;

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/21155/

http://www.greentechgazette.com/index.php/solar-energy/solar-panel-breakthrough-captures-96-21-percent-of-light/

when i move to florida, solar power is something im going to explore more




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Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Wesker on February 21, 2009, 05:11:46 PM
Electric cars sounds great, but that means our action movies can't have the hero driving his car into the river to save the damsel and kill the bad guy anymore.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 21, 2009, 08:25:59 PM
thanks for pointing out my writing flaws fw...
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Flashwerewolf on February 21, 2009, 09:16:41 PM
well no news programs really get into modern solar power stuff, its "too technical" they say. they'd rather complain about gas.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 21, 2009, 09:31:47 PM
soon they will, soon

mu ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: black death on February 22, 2009, 02:30:10 PM
you guys dont know about the advancements in solar, the technology that is availble to the public is the old solar technology from the 70s/80s

there have been many advancements, but just not marketed

the technology we have now for solar on the market only takes in 1 color ray from the sun, but they have advancments in solar that takes all the ray colors from the sun and turns them into energy

the main concern is filling up a battery, batterys need to be advanced too, to hold more power

a few breakthroughs ignored by the public;

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/21155/

http://www.greentechgazette.com/index.php/solar-energy/solar-panel-breakthrough-captures-96-21-percent-of-light/

when i move to florida, solar power is something im going to explore more




i liked the first one. but neather of them will work if you cover it with glass or a type of protective plastic. the second one MAY help and bring it back to normal efficiency. but that may work at ALL it may instead of bringing it down 40% it will bring it down 80%. you won't know unless they do a test on it.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Whalesdude on February 23, 2009, 08:30:30 PM
No, it would work, but as time wore on and the cars (Which we all know go through some rough weather) went places, it would get less and less efficient due to use. For the first week it would be great. ;D

The only other alternative I can think of is using this stuff that my dad uses on the car every now and again, when we go on long road-trips to protect the windshields. We could use that on the solar panels. Hydrophobic glass polish, or something like that.

Other than that, it would just require some simple, extra maintenance to keep it clean. Personally, if I don't have to use gas, or I have to clean my car more instead of going to the gas station, I'm cool with it. Haha.

Perhaps even make it that much simpler and allow them to be removable to clean.

My only concern then is after a crash or accident. You'd have to spend thousands to get new solar panels. Doesn't sound appealing.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Pryce321 on February 23, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
Who knows maybe insurance will cover it.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Wesker on February 23, 2009, 10:00:48 PM
This also means that our action heroes can't shoot at the car's gas tank and blow it up now. This sucks.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Red on February 23, 2009, 10:12:38 PM
I wouldn't mind having an electric car.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: tkoold on February 24, 2009, 06:20:38 AM
hmm thats gutsy of GM but i betcha obama made them go in that direction in order to validate the 17-30 Billion $$ of tax money they can recieve.. but only time will tell when we know if the goverment payed Billions of Tax dollars to all three Auto companies to nudge them in direction of what cars to produce and how to run their buisnesses as weather or not it created anything usfull to society or the world as a whole..

it took the world about 30 Years to fully acknolege Hitlers Briliance in designing the Volkswagon Beetle and then forcing the german Auto compony to only produce cars with his stringent MPG requirements and revolutionary safety suspension and body chasis for the standards of 1930's...

will our 100 Billion $$ spread out and spent on the Big 3 create a Marvle of history or will it be a Bigger Goverment Blunder than when Britian was Swindled out of 500 Million $ creating a Deloreon Vihichle that outside of "Back to the Future" comercialy bombed and bankrupt the auto compony producing it and Britian just Lost the money. and is considered by the History channle as one of the top 25 Worlds Biggest Blunders.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Whalesdude on February 24, 2009, 08:45:47 AM
Imma put my meat sofa through your doorframe.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: OMUTSU on February 24, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
i heard there was an electric car that already came out at a decent price and could go much further than what an average american drives per day. however some lawsuit or some other bullshit happened, and there was anemergency recall on all the cars. When the cars were found, they were crushed in the middle of a desert. But there is still one car left, and it had all of its parts removed, and is sitting in the basement inside of a museum. I also heard that there is a movie out called "where did the electric car go?" that documents this. Also, I heard this from my Eng 101 teacher, so I'm pretty sure its legit
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 25, 2009, 08:23:22 AM
there was a movie that was made called "where did the electric car go"

just know things are going to change now that obama is the leader, no more rich manupulation for oil and jobs overseas

[asia]

ps. i cant wait to learn about solar power when im in florida
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Flashwerewolf on February 25, 2009, 04:31:59 PM
there was a movie that was made called "where did the electric car go"

just know things are going to change now that obama is the leader, no more rich manupulation for oil and jobs overseas

[asia]

ps. i cant wait to learn about solar power when im in florida

oh there will be rich manupulation alright...

also, its sunny in Florida?
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 25, 2009, 05:15:48 PM
yes!!! and i cant wait until the huge tropical raindrops durring the day randomly!
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: OMUTSU on February 25, 2009, 05:50:41 PM
no more shoveling snow
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Red on February 25, 2009, 05:53:39 PM
no more shoveling snow

Lucky Kinjo. (Since he's moving)

Six inches of snow is coming tonight.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on February 25, 2009, 08:01:25 PM
i havent shoveled snow since childhood, when you live in apartments, condos you have people do it for you

i still have to deal with this years snow! im not moving until may 1st!
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: Whalesdude on February 26, 2009, 05:09:08 AM
yes!!! and i cant wait until the huge tropical raindrops durring the day randomly!

You'd be surprised at how often it comes. I've stayed in Orlando for a few weeks. It was VERY nice there. The temperature would have been extremely hot, but there was always a nice steady, pleasant breeze. I love the sight of palm trees. Regarding the rain, you'll be able to tell when it'll rain, because off in the distance there will be HUGE rain clouds. We got the pleasure of seeing some when we flew in, from the top. It looked really cool.
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: tkoold on March 04, 2009, 02:40:54 AM
lol the east coast right now is getting hit with snow :P
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: kinjo on March 04, 2009, 08:08:02 AM
ya above the carolinas
Title: Re: Electric cars get charge from stimulus
Post by: black death on March 05, 2009, 04:37:20 PM
i live in canada so i snow is not something wierd to get.