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Title: Sony slashes 8,000 jobs
Post by: kinjo on December 09, 2008, 11:23:25 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_sony

yay! no playstation 4!!!!
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 09, 2008, 01:25:48 PM
I hope there arent any new consoles for 10 years
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 09, 2008, 02:35:24 PM
I hope there are no more. :D
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Post by: kinjo on December 09, 2008, 04:59:16 PM
i want the holodeck like in star trek

better be done by 2015, play gears of war like i was actually there!
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Post by: Pryce321 on December 09, 2008, 05:14:05 PM
"Realistic chainsawing! The blood is actually yours!"
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Post by: kinjo on December 09, 2008, 06:08:29 PM
 :furrysmiley069fn:
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Post by: tkoold on December 10, 2008, 02:39:29 AM
it is kind of wierd... cuz in my life with the 80's you had the Crash of American Consuls Atari and coleco because they held on to Old technology way to long and just had Awful over priced games as well, which gave birth to Nintendo and the 80's progression of Technology was slow enough that that system was Suitable for about 10 years.
but progressivly into the 90's with the tech Boom and other economic factors the SNES and Sega Genis would only see about 6 Years of Life, and the N64 & Seca CD and segas other consuls would barely see 4 years.. and even though the systems would improve this would give way to more complex games, games Kids i think cant quite grow up to.. its kinda like ok sun your 5 you want video games well throw you into the fire and see how bad you are at halo.. or whatever.. now im not going to say the games i grew up on as a kid were easy but... to try and learn and believe and become a video game Master just doesent happen anymore.. atleast i dont feel that way.

Anyways to get back on track to what im trying to say.. Somthing does have to give because with the Xbox 360 and PS3 are about as High quality graphics as any consul is going to be while still trying to run a buisness and allow profitability, and also i dont see how improving the CPU powers and memory and graphics cards of any of the Consuls anymore can amount to better and more fun games anymore.. in a nut shell it all comes to the game writing companies to write great games that swoon the masses.. the consuls are good enough for anything now days..

and Intrestingly enough, i think the Wii is a Little ahead of the curve because its a New Kind of game play that Maybe the Hardcore 17+ crew who wants easy FPS games or doesent want to be active. but honestly the Wii Apeals marketbly better to More sterio types of people its not just kids teens its Familys Young and old and the games are fun Not because of the system specs or the max graphic cababilities its because of a Uniqe new Style of not only how you have to play the games but also a Huge amount of well done complete games full of real life activites with entertaining action.

so i would say for all the Video game consul Corporations they do need a period where they can just rein in profits and not budget so much for the immediate future.. that said someone is likly to jump the gun and the rest will have to follow to not be left in the dust.. i also have to chuckle though Sony has to be laughin its profits to no end that the PS2 may never die, they still release current games for it!
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Post by: kinjo on December 10, 2008, 10:19:08 AM
i think the worst thing about how long the gaming industry has been around is KIDS, they know nothing of older games

great games ive beaten on nes, genesis etc, even sega saturn or sega cd

maybe a handful of kids know

im working on a new zombie game that has atari graphics and when i describe it, i say pitfall style and some young'ns say whats pitfall? i almost faint

im very happy i got to grow up as the NES generation and i still love older games to this day, and will always

but i do play new games, and i also want a WII, i bet i could get in great shape playing the wii  [neko08]
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Post by: black death on December 10, 2008, 02:43:32 PM
lol, WOW! MY ARMS R LIEK A LITL MOAR PWRFUL. It would be better to just go for a run. [neko02]
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Post by: ShinamoriAoshi on December 10, 2008, 11:05:47 PM
OR SOME PUSH UPS
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Post by: black death on December 10, 2008, 11:40:05 PM
Exactly. 2 push ups would probably be the same amount of help to your arms that the wii would do.
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 11, 2008, 12:04:33 AM
Wii is reflexes and light cardio
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Post by: tkoold on December 11, 2008, 05:54:00 AM
i think the worst thing about how long the gaming industry has been around is KIDS, they know nothing of older games

great games ive beaten on nes, genesis etc, even sega saturn or sega cd

maybe a handful of kids know

im working on a new zombie game that has atari graphics and when i describe it, i say pitfall style and some young'ns say whats pitfall? i almost faint

im very happy i got to grow up as the NES generation and i still love older games to this day, and will always

but i do play new games, and i also want a WII, i bet i could get in great shape playing the wii  [neko08]

yeah personaly i feel your pain, infact in the anime thread i post my example of what you just said, i mean you talk about zelda now and all people know is N64 gamecube and wii and im like Dude i beat the first 3, and their like whats the first 3?

i remember in like 4-6th Grade i would tell people i played on a commedore 64, and they would all be like what? theres no 64 Bit System or your makin stuff up thats not a computer or they would ask then what the 64 meant, course it meant that the computer had 64K of memory which was Twice as much as the apple computers of the era...

yeah theres so much that was great about video games in the 80's that is just gone now.. and even if you tell kids about them theres not quite a way anyone could understand what it was really like in the past.

because True Arcades dont exist anymore, i mean like chuckie cheeses is the only closest thing but even thats different cuz its totaly geared for young kids age 4-12 and then just the fact that Arcade games cannot be better then anything you can play at home anymore.. and even if some games come close.. they just price you out and want 1$ per play and even back before 1995 all of this was not true and you had Lots of reasons to goto arcades and Arcade games were Overall the best most fun thing you could play and you wouldnt get priced out and Arcades were not just for kids.

another thing Completely Different about video games now compared to the 80's as far as society goes is like when i was 5, i really believe i was a Video game prodogy master, i had been playing video games on my grandmas coleco vision when i was 3, and even played and ran and WROTE games on my dads commedore 64, when i was 5, and my dad bought me a Nintendo for cristmas that year (considered to be my #1 Cristmas gift ever in my life)

but like so i have this nintendo my grandma and parents buy me like 2-3 games over the first couple of years, i rent games every weekend, but like all my friends in the neibor hood, school and even day care (yeah i was at a day care several hours a day till i was 11 and 12.. but my mom worked..) owned tons of games and loved talkin nintendo but really were not great at the games, and id tell people what i could do in such and such games and they would be like Psh Yeah, and i mean some of these guys were like bully type people, but id say OK hand me a controller and within half an hour everyones Jaws would drop, and i would be asked to come over every day to several peoples houses because they wanted to see farther then they could get in the games or see what i may accomplesh next, All of this without todays web giving you video walkthroughs txt faqs and other help ect..

man i have countless stories from when i was as young as 5 to even early 13's cuz people in the know even wanted to see what i did with SNES games, but these type of things dont happen anymore, because Society has changed the friendlyness of neiborhoods has changed and theres other outstanding issues that occure that People never even thought of in the 80's i mean you name it its out there.. and i dont get it theres always been good and bad in the world. but people dont care about the comunity any more and they dont want to know anyone they dont have to and it changes the atmosphere for kids to have friends and what they feel they can do outside in the world.

i mean i would goto my friends houses and they would own games like Mario 2, castle vainia and top gun and countless others and josh this one friend could just get to lvl 3 of castlevainia 1 on a rare occasion, i would come over and get to lvl 5 6 or 7 and if i was real lucky kill dracula, also amongst the 15 or so friends, i was the only person that could Land the plane (Search Youtube video's to see how some people complain while hundreds of people like me post that it was easy lol) and i mean there were days where all my friends would come over to my house they would all bring their games and just want to watch me play see what i could do, my best days to remember was like one day i had some 45 Nintendo games Amassed and it was just fun for me and all the friends to just line them up and go wow we have allot of video games here O_O, and here like untill i was like 15 myself didnt get to own but more then like 12 games but through my mastery and skill had impressed people formed friendships and had access to More games then a kid of a Poor family could have ever aspired to imagine and i would forever blow people away, there was a small window of time, where i had gotten so good and in the whole routine of Zelda 1, that in 25 minutes, i would start a game from scratch, Brand new file and collect all the hearts and be ready for Gannons castle, 25 Min i mean Gawd Damn, sometimes i load up the emulator now and dont have a damn clue how i did it back then.. and i mean i have Hundreds of more stories all anyone has to do is ask and id love pourin my heart out but sometimes words cant describe what things were really like as my child hood anymore because its really become a Different Universe in so many different ways.
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Post by: kinjo on December 11, 2008, 08:54:08 AM
i wish i had a better memory, seriously you add such detail to your experiences.

but now you need to realize you are grown up, a grown man. like me, we are adults. and every generation is going to be differerent. which im okay with

i thought i was a game master in the day too, i had 50+ nes games and i thought they were gold (later to realize they are worth less than a couple bucks if that)

Many of the exact same experinces happened to me, alot. Someone would be playing mario 1, and just loosing. I would wip through it in no time. I even remember telling someone 'if you jump down that hole you go to a secret area' and they would die, lol

Friends would come over to play video games and i would own them all. Being the envy on the block. I think what really has changed everything is the internet. But i love where it has gone, and its only going to get better.

I had the sega channel. For the sega genesis, it was a little box on top of a cartridge that connected to a cable wire. You could play maybe 40 games, and they had sections of video that you could get cheats off of. But it wasnt like online stuff now it was very primitive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMRLZcBiN-k

But right now im talking junior high. Before that, ya i had a nintendo. I never had a commodor 64 or atari, infact back then i hated them because I went to arcades with my big brother.

Most games in arcades were better then consoles. (Pinball, projecter games, hey had more to work with in big machines) Not until nintendo came out i ownd a console. My sister had an atari and i destroyed it. She was always a meanie, and i was like  [neko04].

Nintendo was released in Released in 1985, i know i didnt get it right when it came out. Because i was only 4. I think i got it at 6-7

I found an interesting history site. http://www.thegameconsole.com/

They didnt consider the commodor 64 a console LOL, it was just a keyboard computer! lol

WIKI

"The Commodore 64 is an 8-bit home computer released by Commodore International in August, 1982, at a price of US$595. "

"During the Commodore 64's lifetime, sales totaled 30 million units, making it the best-selling single personal computer model of all time."

"For a substantial period of time (1983-1985), the Commodore 64 dominated the market with approximately 40% share and 2 million units sold per year,[3] outselling the IBM PC clones, Apple computers, and Atari computers. "

I was unaware of the commodore until about 7th grade. Which was many many years after its decline.  Around the time of the commodor 64 release, i was more worried about how i was going to get a nintendo!  :furrysmiley069fn:
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Post by: black death on December 11, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
You old people talking about your old game systems.
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Post by: kinjo on December 11, 2008, 03:08:50 PM
u will understand one day im sure
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Post by: black death on December 11, 2008, 06:18:11 PM
Like today? sure thing.
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Post by: kinjo on December 11, 2008, 07:57:24 PM
wow, that was fast  [luigi]
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Post by: black death on December 11, 2008, 09:46:43 PM
You expect little from me. i like to joke around. i do understand what you mean.
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Post by: tkoold on December 12, 2008, 05:34:06 AM
i should put the C64 Emulator on my thumb drive next time im over kinjo and show you most of my favorite games as a kid i think youll probably be suprised, in some ways it has a better then Nintendo quality, was almost ahead of its time.

also the Whole OS was bill gates first Version of the Blue Screen lol! (he Wrote the OS for the C64 it was his first paid programing job ever) and the screen to the OS comman line is 2 shades of blue as seen in this photo
(http://coreyclaytonlnp.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/commodore64setup.jpeg)

atleast back then it was not somthing you feared..
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Post by: kinjo on December 12, 2008, 10:43:58 AM
i said i played commodor 64 durring junior high

a friend of mine had it at the time and we played it, i remember thinking how terrible it was, went home and played snes to cleanse my eyes
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Post by: black death on December 12, 2008, 03:23:13 PM
i guess the commodor 64 and the snes are the PS3 and xbox 360 of your generation.
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Post by: kinjo on December 12, 2008, 03:30:27 PM
commodor 64 - 1985
snes - 1992
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Post by: black death on December 12, 2008, 03:47:07 PM
stfu?
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Post by: kinjo on December 13, 2008, 08:48:05 AM
multiple generations  [neko05]
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 13, 2008, 08:52:03 AM
same year!!!!
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Post by: black death on December 13, 2008, 01:16:58 PM
im all like "THIS IS THIS" and kinjo is all like " FOO, IT AINT LIKE DAT." i hate you now kinjo... ruining my fun. [nsad]
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Post by: tkoold on December 13, 2008, 01:45:00 PM
no lol its more like the 3DO was the PS3 of our generation when it first came out they wanted 700$ for that thing
the PS1 was way ahead of its time it was awesome.. maybe that was the PS3 of our generation that or the 64 Bit atari system.
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Post by: kinjo on December 13, 2008, 02:03:41 PM
i remmber asking stores for the new nintendo, because at first nintendo hired sony to help on there new system they then scrapped, then sony just continued then bam! Playstation

so when i went looking for it, i kept asking about the new nintendo, and people were like what?

nintendo tried suing because they said they owned the name playstation, but sony won and we all know what happened after

sony has always been a thief, ps3 is a huge example of that
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Post by: black death on December 13, 2008, 04:50:04 PM
I don't care. I like PS3 and you can't change my mind just like I can't change yours.
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Post by: kinjo on December 13, 2008, 09:59:24 PM
enjoy it while you can, there wont be another console, if there is it will FAIL!  :furrysmiley069fn:
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 13, 2008, 10:33:58 PM
The next generation systems will hit the shelves 2012 for sure, this industry makes too much cash to not make a new systems.
  [ele3]
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Post by: ShinamoriAoshi on December 13, 2008, 10:58:36 PM
Video games has always been a profitable industry, and it always will be, as long as there is a tkoold in the world.
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Post by: tkoold on December 14, 2008, 03:00:33 AM
you have to admit though Sony knew what to do more then nintendo did cuz while the N64 broke even and didnt quite bomb completly Sony made big with a CD drive instead of cartridges and then also Nintendo lost out on the Video Game Writing Licences war Loosing Square soft and the Final fantasy series was a Huge hit to nintendo.. espeshally since it meant which systems had FF7... not to mention dozence of other companies that had been forever loyal to nintendo..
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 14, 2008, 03:22:48 AM
Buying any game console the day it comes out will ALWAYS be more expensive. The true cost of items are virtually a factor of Demand. So in a year or two ill be picking up a PS3. I still have 5 handfuls of PS2 games to play.
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Post by: kinjo on December 14, 2008, 09:44:53 AM
i would get a ps3 for $150 tops
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Post by: black death on December 14, 2008, 01:28:27 PM
Buying any game console the day it comes out will ALWAYS be more expensive. The true cost of items are virtually a factor of Demand. So in a year or two ill be picking up a PS3. I still have 5 handfuls of PS2 games to play.
i agree, when it gets down to 200$ il buy it. but for now I won't, il just play my bros ps3!
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Post by: tkoold on December 14, 2008, 06:15:26 PM
its never fun though to buy things after they come down in price because usualy it means one of 2 things, either A, Everyone has it and your not seen as cool to have it and people have moved on to the next new thing, or B no one has it No one wants it and nothing about it is fun.

as ive learned with owning kinjos old X box Answer A is basically what happened and yes the games were fun.. but it was only fun for me and no one cared.

if the PS 3 does have a Huge bomb which i would say is Highly doubtfull, there should be nothing wrong about the system it should just be about how good the games and software are writen for it and if it has a Huge amount of Titles only for the system. anyways should worst come to worst as like people who said i wont buy the N64 when its brand new, by the time it comes to a price you think you want it you may find you dont.. for either reasons.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 14, 2008, 06:18:56 PM
Righto Browski That is correct, you get them when they are hot like mcdonalds fries or then they are just obsolete.
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Post by: tkoold on December 14, 2008, 06:31:07 PM
hehe Thanks thefifthelli, and black lol you just told us your bro is cooler then you :P
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Post by: black death on December 14, 2008, 07:28:23 PM
Tkoold, in no way do i beleave that a GAME SYSTEM ditermines who is cool and who is not. most people these days are "in the closet" gamers, people beleave they are nerds for liking games but even the people who call them nerds play just as much games as them. also the xbox 360 went WAY down in price. This will mean that the PS3 will do the same to keep up with it's competitors. i'll soon get my ps3.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 14, 2008, 07:43:59 PM
I have a 360 and if I wanted to be more primal I would have got the chop suey that is the ps3, and its terrible graphics. Its plain mediocre and bland plus all that it had going for it they threw over to my system.
Final fantasy, GTA, and resident evil... nothing good about the system anymore.
 [panda]
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 14, 2008, 08:13:08 PM
I dont play games for coolness, or really to play along side anyone. I play to be entertained by storyline. [neko09]
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Post by: tkoold on December 14, 2008, 09:45:04 PM
and thats exactly what has changed since the 80's era
its changed so much its somthing incomprehensible
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 14, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
I love storylines (otherwise why would I be Rping) but You have to visualize that story now and the ps3 just can't do that. for me and any other true hardcore gamers.
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Post by: tkoold on December 14, 2008, 10:48:55 PM
yeah i suppose but again that means the Games suck not necesserily the hardware no one really knows whats the best the PS3 can do yet, now i will say it probably does and has costed more then it should but its supposedly because it has the best hardware or atleast hardware worth the money now none of thats good if the programs dont utilize it and i dont think an iconic game has yet been made for the system i mean no one knew what FF7 was or how it would change our feelings and revolutionize the moving forward of how we see and compare the future video games and whats good bad and ugly and no one felt sony could do what they did before that game and many other amazing hits by konami and other game programing companies that had soly been Loyal to nintendo before jumping to sony.

whats hurt sony in this manner is that it doesent have its PS3 Identity and its taken to long for the ball to get rolling and feel it has somthing better that someone cannot get with the other Systems, as long as big games are released on 2 or all of the platforms it would be unusual that the the PS3 could gain some seperation or get people to say i have to play it on the PS3, i feel that with the PS2 you needed a PS2 to play Guitar hero and Guitar hero 2 you NEEDED it to play during the beginning of that games franchise it was not on Xbox or 360 for quite some time, Kingdom Hearts PS2 or nothin, and so many other games.. What PS3 needs is a Line of Games Everyone wants and Does not have to immediatly share with everyone, and Xbox Knows this game and has manipulated it such that they Beat sony at it and Microsoft even discraces the loyal PC gamers from whence bill gates has his money by keeping Halo to its self and even making PC users wait a year to 2 years for games microsoft could make just as easy on its own operating systems as for the system they make themselfs.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 14, 2008, 11:21:35 PM
Its just a matter of time before Microsoft gets Kingdom Hearts, they get it all.... [neko05]
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Post by: tkoold on December 14, 2008, 11:43:46 PM
lol as every video gaming empire seems ongoing forever somehow microsoft will come to an end, no one can fathom now how but.. somewhere the corporation will make some mistakes and things will faulter
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Post by: kinjo on December 15, 2008, 11:11:12 AM
i dont think microsoft will ever fail, i just wish they would stop shipping jobs overseas

them and apple
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 15, 2008, 02:12:36 PM
Maybe after Bill gates dies but thats not in my gaming life time.
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 16, 2008, 12:48:12 AM
What the problem with the PS3 is, is that it's released FAR too early. The system shouldn't have even come out, but it was practically forced and also rushed to release, simply because of the competition. If all game companies made games to "have a wonderful and exciting story line", then there would be like 10 games a year and the companies wouldn't make any money. But, by making games to appeal to people, that are half-assed and MAY trigger some sort of recognition, and making tons of those? You're talking big money there, and that's what the video game industry has become.

I sort of feel like you do, tkoold, only I'm not as old. I remember being 4-6 years old, playing SNES, Atari and N64, all at once, really. My cousin was a big gamer, and he's... 19, now? Yeah. 19. He had all these amazing games I remember playing, Chrono Trigger/Cross being my favourites. I was also VERY good at them. I became good because my cousin was good, and in order to keep up with him, I had to play harder and better just to beat him, or get even. We both had the OLD gameboys, the big fat grey ones, and eventually upgraded to the Gameboy Pockets and further into the Gameboy Colours. Eventually, because I had no new gaming systems besides a gameboy (I had an SNES), when I was about 6 or 7, I got an N64 from my Aunt for Christmas. I felt the same way you did, tkoold. Everyone was like, "Oh you got the N64! I want to come over and play it!", and when they did, I'd school 'em. I was the best Super Smash Brother's guy around, and my cousin and I were one of the first people to discover how to beat Mario 64 in under an hour. Needed tips on Harvest Moon 64? I was your man. The thing I noticed though, when I played the older games, on my SNES, it didn't seem as amazing to everyone. They were all interested in who was best at the newer games, not the older ones. I was amazing at the old school mario games, especially on the gameboy. Tetris? Loved it. Got massive highscores on that one. But for some reason, even as I got better as a gamer, it just seemed less and less amazing to people. When I still had my SNES, at around 12-13, my mom had a brilliant idea that I wasn't using it anymore, so she sold it at a yardsale for 30 bucks. Can you believe it? All my games, plus the extra controller. Gone. 30 bucks. She almost did that to my N64, but I stopped her as she was trying to unhook it.

Hell, I even remember going to the arcades with my dad, and my cousin/uncle when I was up there. We'd go there for hours playing tons of games, like Frogger, Pac-Man, Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong, Space Invaders, Galaga, Solomon's Key, Centipede, Street Fighter... Tons of old titles. I miss the old days, man. The 90's were great. It just feels like it's getting worse.

Here's my theory on why I'm slowly seeming to get worse at games: Games are slowly being more open to everyone. As the game systems get more complicated and high-tech, the game itself must be made easier, and the window of success must be made wider. With this being said, a typical gamer could easily beat the storyline of a new game coming out today, however it actually took lots of skill to beat a game like Castlevania or Super Mario. If you didn't know what you were doing, you couldn't do it. There were no strategy guides, no "Gamefaqs", just skill. I find that today, this easy base for information (The Internet) as well as games gradually becoming easier and easier, (Dumbing down so that everyone can play games) is triggering gamers like me and you, to start losing their luster.

It's depressing. Very depressing.
Title: Re: Sony slashes 8,000 jobs
Post by: black death on December 17, 2008, 01:08:53 PM
I have a 360 and if I wanted to be more primal I would have got the chop suey that is the ps3, and its terrible graphics. Its plain mediocre and bland plus all that it had going for it they threw over to my system.
Final fantasy, GTA, and resident evil... nothing good about the system anymore.
 [panda]

What are you talking about!? it is said by EVERYONE that it has the best graphics. that is NOT an arguement. it runs with blueray, and blueray is better than HD. it HAS the BEST graphics.
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Post by: tkoold on December 17, 2008, 02:01:37 PM
dang whales thats an awesome story, 30 bucks.. dude your mom got ripped so bad.. you can sell SNES for like 100$ if you have games and everything.  [neko07] i still have all my gameboy games i managed to amas over 10 years.. i have like 30 of them, its why i only own like 6 gameboy advance games, lol just play GB on the advance..

yeah its kinda funny now, my mom has a wii and now about 10-15 games and will increase by like 6 or so after cristmas, the games are fun but because they are action based and require arm movements and fitness its a new challenge and sometimes hard, but they are fun.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 17, 2008, 05:03:56 PM
UHHH I don't really care what "everyone else" says Its what I think that counts! LOL J/k
But coming from A hardcore teen gamer just because they have blueray doesn't mean they use it! Tell me one game that looks so much better than the 360's games and I might agree but so far the 360 has been busting their ass using the HD that they have and yes they make their games look tons better.
TEN TONS OF FUN!!!
 [ele2]  [ele3] [ele]
Title: Re: Sony slashes 8,000 jobs
Post by: black death on December 17, 2008, 05:45:22 PM
UHHH I don't really care what "everyone else" says Its what I think that counts! LOL J/k
But coming from A hardcore teen gamer just because they have blueray doesn't mean they use it! Tell me one game that looks so much better than the 360's games and I might agree but so far the 360 has been busting their ass using the HD that they have and yes they make their games look tons better.
TEN TONS OF FUN!!!
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dude, every PS3 game uses blueray. if you look at the tops of the games it says blueray. the games are blueray disk. also, 360 does have good graphics. ps3 may not have better graphics than 360, but they are NOT worse than 360.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 17, 2008, 05:57:36 PM
thats what you just said then you took it back and now your saying in again???
Like I said just because they have blueray doesn't mean they are cranking out their best like the 360..
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Post by: kinjo on December 17, 2008, 06:30:40 PM
sony doesnt really make games, whats sonys most popular character? crash bandacoot?
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 17, 2008, 06:36:16 PM
Nintendo and Microsoft have plenty of "Hero" Characters that are present in many games that they use.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 17, 2008, 07:10:50 PM
Dante, Kratos (from god of war), Tydus and yuna plenty of others but thats who come to my mind when I think of sony heros.
Hope I spelled those right.
 [nsad]
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Post by: black death on December 17, 2008, 08:49:07 PM
dante is  [cen] in kickass.
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 17, 2008, 11:48:03 PM
But is he sold only on the PS3? Nyu. He is a multi-console hero. I'm taking the guys that are only on one console, like Master Chief/Halo for the 360, Mario for ... Every Nintendo System. That sort of thing.
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Post by: kinjo on December 18, 2008, 10:05:25 AM
too many japanese consoles

sony & nintendo is japanese
xbox is american

1 japanese company is going to fail, which one will it b!
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 18, 2008, 02:56:06 PM
You already have my Vote, Jeff.
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Post by: black death on December 18, 2008, 03:19:44 PM
I do hope one day the ps4 comes. and they keep making games for the ps3. It's a good system, there are only a few games on the xbox i like. while the ps3 has a whole range of them. NOW! no one get mad it's just the kind of games i like.
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 18, 2008, 03:42:31 PM
I feel the opposite way. The game-range on the PS3 seems so much smaller to begin with, then cross out the games I don't enjoy (Which you technically do on every system, to be honest) and I'm not left with much. :<

I do have to say: One game made the PS3 not an Epic Fail system.

(http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/PS3/7799.jpg)

Metal Gear Solid 4.
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Post by: black death on December 18, 2008, 03:45:31 PM
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH METAL  [cen] ING GEAR!
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 18, 2008, 03:47:42 PM
Seriously. If they never came out with MGS4 or it released for the 360, I would dislike the PS3.
Title: Re: Sony slashes 8,000 jobs
Post by: black death on December 18, 2008, 05:03:33 PM
all the other MGS's ruled too.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 18, 2008, 05:06:29 PM
answering a earlier question. Sony will fail before nintendo does.
And snake appeared on a nintendo game if I am not mistake, I think it was on the super smash bros brawl.
 [neko03]
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Post by: Red on December 18, 2008, 05:17:30 PM
I'd rather have a computer over any console system. But I guess that leaves the option open to get a virus or something... Another reason is because I'm a person who enjoys playing games most people never play anymore. If I play any console, it's my N64. It's tripped out with a state of the art expansion pack (That’s what they call them, right? I don’t remember, it’s been way too long)!
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Post by: black death on December 18, 2008, 05:38:40 PM
i agree, computers are way better than any game system and you can play some games that go on game systems.
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 18, 2008, 08:53:08 PM
About the #of Games for PS3. They don't get advertised to everyone as much as 360 games. You have to actually spend time looking at them. That's why you cant think of a dozen PS3 games off the bat.
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Post by: black death on December 18, 2008, 09:55:53 PM
they also have tons of cool games on the PS3 network. and nice aplications! they just came out with an aplication for it that is like IMVU or second life, but more realistic and about 20X better.
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 19, 2008, 07:30:53 PM
Yeah I herd about that. you can play games while you play a game!
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Post by: black death on December 19, 2008, 08:58:41 PM
yeah, aparently it's really cool.
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Post by: tkoold on December 20, 2008, 06:59:26 AM
kinjo theres enough people in japan it wont fail fail as in Sony dies and wont make another consul
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Post by: kinjo on December 20, 2008, 08:49:08 AM
japan is not as big as you think

japan has ninento, more games, more characters, more sex
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 20, 2008, 09:10:44 AM
And this is why the peon (sony) will fall to the overlord (nintendo).
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Post by: black death on December 20, 2008, 02:45:29 PM
Just because you hope it will, does not mean it will. Face the facts bud, it's a large corperation and will come out with new games and new consoles.
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Post by: ShinamoriAoshi on December 20, 2008, 06:14:41 PM
Only time will tell...
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Post by: black death on December 21, 2008, 12:45:00 AM
nope, the market will.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 21, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
Which is down and like the facts all point to the greatest things will fail eventually. America, the market ( cough cough), democracy, Sony,nintendo or microsoft. Just like the other greats greece and the roman empire oh lets not forget the chinese they all came to an end eventually. I think this has some correlation to any empire even if that is just video games.
Title: Re: Sony slashes 8,000 jobs
Post by: black death on December 21, 2008, 06:05:09 PM
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE VIDEA GA­YMS.
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Post by: Thefifthelli on December 21, 2008, 06:44:46 PM
True true..
( [nonono])
LOL
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Post by: kinjo on December 22, 2008, 10:37:02 AM
ya, games and cartoons will always have an audience  [drink]
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Post by: tkoold on December 22, 2008, 11:39:40 AM
lol i can see it now a Tenological Anarky back are the days of 2D Nintendo's no one wants better games
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Post by: black death on December 22, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
I want virtual reality games. :(
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Post by: tkoold on December 23, 2008, 11:00:03 AM
lol just close your eyes.
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Post by: black death on December 23, 2008, 02:03:41 PM
*closes eyes* all i see is black... YOU LIED TO ME.

though if you push on your eyes slightly it gets trippy, theres all these spinning patterns and shit.
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Post by: Whalesdude on December 23, 2008, 06:09:32 PM
About the #of Games for PS3. They don't get advertised to everyone as much as 360 games. You have to actually spend time looking at them. That's why you cant think of a dozen PS3 games off the bat.

Although, I never watch TV or look at any sorts of Ads. I only read about new games on Gamespot. They aren't biased like the media is.
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 23, 2008, 08:36:07 PM
SURE THEY ARE!
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Post by: tkoold on December 24, 2008, 01:38:21 AM
yeah ign gamespot is deceptive..
Title: Re: Sony slashes 8,000 jobs
Post by: black death on December 24, 2008, 02:04:37 PM
About the #of Games for PS3. They don't get advertised to everyone as much as 360 games. You have to actually spend time looking at them. That's why you cant think of a dozen PS3 games off the bat.

Although, I never watch TV or look at any sorts of Ads. I only read about new games on Gamespot. They aren't biased like the media is.

they are just as biased as the media is.
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Post by: tkoold on December 25, 2008, 01:11:06 AM
video games and media are about money its just in how the precent themselves as to what you like being that there is more then one option to get info from what they really do is cover all the spectrums so that they get Money out of everyone who wants information of videogames.
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Post by: ShinamoriAoshi on December 25, 2008, 01:20:02 AM
I read magazines to get my gaming info, free press isn't biased is it?
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Post by: black death on December 25, 2008, 04:13:21 PM
yes.
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Post by: ShinamoriAoshi on December 26, 2008, 12:54:53 AM
I thought so, oh well.
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on December 26, 2008, 01:55:37 AM
 I read magazines to get opinions, or to get a quick synopsis of games.
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Post by: black death on December 26, 2008, 04:51:02 PM
i don't buy ANYTHING that i can get on the net. waste of money.
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Post by: tkoold on January 01, 2009, 11:15:08 PM
magaziens!? Free press!? lol it costed money [dontget]
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Post by: Flashwerewolf on January 02, 2009, 02:54:27 AM
magaziens!? Free press!? lol it costed money [dontget]

I never buy any. if I see a gaming mag, i read it :)
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Post by: Thefifthelli on January 02, 2009, 06:07:36 PM
thats the way to do it go to the store and read the mag there so u don't pay free info!